Ukraine Is the New Afghanistan… For Us

While it is possible that Ukrainians are choosing to not retreat, its equally possible that they can’t retreat. Our perception of the war in Ukraine is, as usual, backwards. I also need to debunk a very popular myth surrounding the so-called “military industrial complex.”

On April 17, I noticed a shift in rhetoric from the mainstream media:

CNN finally noticed Donbass…

“Prior to the outbreak of war on February 24, Ukraine had already positioned the majority of its army in the eastern Donbas region — focusing on the line of contact between Kyiv’s troops and Russian-backed separatists defending the Luhansk and Donetsk areas.

Reports estimate there were as many as 40,000 Ukrainian troops fighting at the Donbas front when war broke out. And there has already been fierce fighting there over the past six weeks. But it now appears both Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky realize the significance of winning the “Battle of Donbas” in the greater trajectory of the war.If Zelensky can hold the line in the Donbas, it will be virtually impossible for Putin to carry the war any further, and will buy Ukraine time to build an offensive force that could later drive Russia out of the country. If Putin’s forces succeed, they will capture or destroy a major percentage of all trained Ukrainian forces — and there will be little to stop Russian armor from capturing Kharkiv, Odessa or even return to Kyiv.”

Here’s the thing, as correctly observed by CNN, the Ukrainian strategy of holing up in densely populated cities and using human shields is very effective. There is also enough passive and sometimes even active loyalty from the civilian population for this strategy to work without significant backlash. So why are Ukrainians suddenly doing the opposite? Why not get out of the kill zone in the Donets basin and retreat to more defensible positions? Furthermore, why is the West enabling this strategy by funneling billions of dollars of equipment into a meat grinder where most of it is just destroyed immediately? Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to retreat, even if this means abandoning their equipment?

Refusing to capitulate to Russia is morally indefensible, but from a pragmatic point of view, it would make sense, if there was a chance of the situation improving. If the Ukrainian army were to escape from Donbass, that would presumably give the Zelensky government more bargaining power at the negotiation table. But instead they’re sitting in their fortifications and being destroyed wholesale.

As odd as it might seem, this strategy seems predetermined.  Look at this commercial for the Ukrainian ground forces from several years ago.

This was the plan. Attack, dig in, and die. Now we’re seeing that plan unfold. Check out these (unofficial) casualty figures for May 2 and May 6.

May 2
May 6

Here’s a good synopsis from the Moon of Alabama.

Without artillery support in good quantity the Ukrainian military has no chance to hold the line and to stop Russian moves. Any unit which attempts is hold the line will simply be mauled by Russian artillery until it is no longer able to fight. That is happening now. As the Ukrainians have orders not to leave or move their defense lines they either have to give up or die defending them.

By giving ‘hold the line’ orders the Ukrainian leadership is contributing to the Russian demilitarization of the Ukraine.

It is the ‘west’ that is preventing Zelensky from suing for peace.

The ‘west’ has fallen for its own propaganda. It believes that the Russian troops near Kiev were defeated by Ukrainian forces. In reality they retreated in good order after the diversion they constituted was no longer needed. The ‘western’ fairytale that they were ‘defeated’ gave hope that Russia could be ‘weakened’, as the U.S. Secretary of State said.

The war will hardly ‘weaken’ Russia. But the war will destroy the Ukrainian military and many, many of its men.

So no matter which way you look at this situation, it seems unsustainable, both for Ukraine and for NATO. While the writers at Moon of Alabama are probably correct that there is downward pressure on Kiev to keep their forces committed in Donbass, there is another possible explanation. Here’s my theory on what is happening.

Russia is using their contract soldiers, and spent years rotating them all through large-scale training exercises, including the exercise they just finished in February. Thanks to this, they rolled into this war with a warm start, as opposed to a cold one. They can perform adequately on a strategic and operational level. Tactical inadequacies in the face of a real-life enemy could be quickly corrected.

As for the Ukrainian side, it looks like they are a NATO-quality force rebuilt from the ground up after their serious failures in 2014-15. As individuals and small units, they can hold their own against their Russian and often win, especially with the added advantage of being on the defensive. The problem is that so far they have never demonstrated the ability to push back Russian forces and retake ground. And no, recapturing terrain that the enemy voluntarily abandoned doesn’t count. Ukrainians recapturing suburbs around Kiev was a victory in the same sense as water filling a bowl. Wars are won by shaping the battlefield to your advantage and forcing the enemy to conform to it. Flowing into channels the enemy created for you is the opposite of winning.

Eight years was enough time to build a huge army almost from scratch, but it was not enough time to properly train them to function at anything higher than a battalion level, and I think we are seeing that deficiency play out in Donbass. In previous months they couldn’t maneuver to exploit Russian mistakes and tactical defeats, and now they can’t maneuver to escape destruction. Aside from losing a huge number of their vehicles, they don’t have the doctrine and cohesion to move 40-100 thousand men to safety.

The logistical complexity of uprooting and moving that many people is enormous and there is also the morale factor. Standing your ground is one thing, but if these soldiers moved westward in a clear retreat, there would be an overwhelming urge to desert and go home, and that’s what many of them would probably do.

Ukrainians can’t capitulate, they can’t retreat, so all they can do is stay where they are and die. Rather than conserve their resources, Kiev is doing the opposite and sending a continuous stream of additional men and equipment to be destroyed in the Donbass pocket.

When the Russians first withdrew from Kiev at the end of March, I wondered at the possibility that this was an attempt to lure additional Ukrainian forces out of safety and into the danger zone. I dismissed it because I just didn’t think that anyone would be stupid enough to fall for that. And yet, that seems to be exactly what’s happening.

As I observed in my post about Soviet Deep Operations, the Russians have succeeded in taking and holding the initiative, staying at least one step and kept the enemy in a state of constantly reacting. From my post Our Own Propaganda Is Killing Us:

Even with the so-called “fog of war” and disinformation campaign, I can say with reasonable certainty that these analysts weren’t lying. This was the widely held perception of Russia’s military capabilities, and the Ukrainian “Afghanistan” was tailored to these specifications (see my post here). Judging from numbers given by the Russian MoD, roughly half of their casualties (so far) were incurred in the first week of fighting. Indeed, that matches up with what NATO has publicly declared about an expected Russian attack, and their own plans to counter it. This also matches up with that overwhelming tsunami of propaganda.

The key element missing was the NATO airpower. Did western neoliberal oligarchs “abandon” their nazi allies in Ukraine in some act of cowardice or lack of unity? Or is there a bigger reason? Maybe we should consider the most obvious explanation. There was no air attack because an air attack would be impossible. They would be shot down and destroyed.

If direct NATO intervention was going to happen, it would have happened already. Now it’s too late. A Ukrainian counteroffensive would have needed to happen early on in the fight, while they still had command and control (C2), aircraft, tanks, and perhaps most importantly, fuel. A lot of fuel.

Now all of those assets have been vastly reduced or destroyed altogether, the window for direct NATO intervention came and went. A NATO air war would only succeed if there was a Ukrainian ground attack for it to support, and their ability to do that must be near nonexistent by now. The only remaining course of action with even a theoretical chance of changing the outcome of this war would be for NATO to fight and win a ground war, which is probably equally unlikely as winning an air war. (See my post No-Fly Zone is a Euphemism for War)

To be clear, I do not think the Russian MoD was playing 12-dimensional chess by withdrawing from Kiev. The goal in the first phase of the war was to force the Ukrainian government to quickly capitulate, and this failed. However, the first phase of the war did absolutely succeed in destroying most of the Ukrainians’ heavy equipment and their ability to do much of anything except sit in static fortifications and wait to be attacked. The Ukrainians’ inability to inflict serious damage is evident even from our own propaganda. Western outlets endlessly recycle old “victories,” like the sinking of the Moskva, each retelling of the story more embellished than the previous ones. The ghost of Kyiv even briefly came out of retirement. See this great video from Paul Joseph Watson:

I have to ask an obvious question. Was NATO’s triumphant chatter lately just disinformation, or did our military and political leaders sincerely believe that the bad Ruskis are on the run and the Ukrainians have a chance of winning? I had always assumed it was disinformation, however, I’m beginning to wonder if the Biden war room got fooled by their own bullshit.

Here’s why I think that. From my post No Ukrainian Girlfriend for You:

We call it an “information war,” but there’s very little the West is doing right now that amounts to much more than literal censorship. Even the disinformation at this point seems to serve no other purpose than to keep western audiences suitably brainwashed. I think that also explains this continuing obsession with the Moskva and I think I finally have an answer for why that particular incident is so important to our regimes.

The West needs a distraction, literally any distraction, against the real story of Mariupol, and the impending battle with what’s left of the Ukrainian army. A big Russian ship sinking serves that purpose nicely.

There’s also the much bigger problem that the window for NATO direct confrontation with Russia has already closed. It’s not clear that this window even existed at all. If it did, the Biden regime needed to escalate within the first week, when American interest in the war was the highest.

Now about the military industrial complex. A couple of weeks ago, Slovakia sent their S-300 system to Ukraine, where it was destroyed almost immediately. Now they’re receiving a Patriot system to replace it. News reports I’ve read used the word “system,” implying a singular unit as opposed to a battery. I’m not sure but in principle this doesn’t change the story. European allies dump their weapons in Ukraine, and in turn, receive new weapons from the USA. It’s pure grift. It’s the biggest money-laundering scheme since the end of the Cold War.

For some reason, many people find this comforting. See, we didn’t actually lose in Afghanistan because defense contractors made a lot of money. I think the idea of a capitalist conspiracy is more comforting than the alternative, that our system is broken to the point we deliberately suffer serious military defeats so some white collar executives can make money. We threw thousands of lives and billions of dollars of space-age tech at some mountains for 20+ years and still lost. There is no way to paint that as anything but a serious defeat.

I think that’s what’s going to end up happening in Ukraine. We smugly set it up as a trap to drag Russia into a bloody proxy war that drains their military capacity and treasury, but the opposite might just well happen. We’re not even three months into this and Washington is already spending tens of billions of dollars just to keep the game going for a little while.

The point of a proxy war is that it is asymmetric. The target of the proxy war, Russia, should be spending more energy to fight than we are. Instead, the opposite is happening. From what we’ve seen so far, Russia can keep this up indefinitely, while the collective West is forced to consume tens or possibly hundreds of billions of dollars just to keep up. And that’s not even touching on the economic side of the conflict.

In other words, we set a trap for Russia and then sprung it on ourselves.  

Ian Kummer

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14 thoughts on “Ukraine Is the New Afghanistan… For Us”

  1. As usual, fantastic analysis. The absurdity of the nato/west position is difficult to understand logically. You have laid it out: our political leaders are inferior and prostitutes for western corporate oligarchs.

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  2. > Look at this commercial for the Ukrainian ground forces from several years ago.

    Finally watched the video. There is a thing, i am on a fence if you noticed it but thought it was out of your today topic, or maybe did not notice at all.

    You said, it was a commercial, a thing that boost sales (even if it is selling conscriptions). Btu look at the closing scene, one with UkrArmy logo – it is in English. You could speculate, the original Ukrainian audio-track was removed and rpelaced with English translation, like they do with cinema. Could be. But the last scene shows the opposite, it was not translated, this commercial of UkrArmy was intentionally made in English. What should it say about intended buyers then?

    Can you rationally imagine a commercial for USArmy filmed in, say, Chinese? Or commercials for RuArmy filmed in Creole ? Probably not. But this video, which allegedly should inspire Ukrainian youth to support and join army – is not made in Ukrainian nor in Russian (native for 3/4 of Ukrainians according to pre-coup Gallups).

    This alone is f-ng wicked.

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    • You know what, I had this same thought – if you go to the YouTube page you’ll actually see a comment by me (Under Gunslinger USA) – saying something to that same effect. The official claim is that it was made in Ukrainian first – as a videographer, I’ll say it is easy to swap out audio tracks, and even graphics, for an official dub/translation. But the targeted audience is likely an international one… meaning financial support, and gullible fools willing to be mercenaries/volunteers. That’s what I think at least, though I didn’t quite specify that properly in the post itself.

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      • > The official claim is that it was made in Ukrainian first

        Then WHY it was translated? Probably to satiate normal regular western citizen interest to Ukrainian situation.

        But then we would go to to a typical “translated video” realm. Would it be fansubbing or fandubbing made by anime or cinema fans, would it be TV channels showing videos with translations.

        If informing is the key – then audio would get translated. The cheapest option would be just a text block near the untouched video, the most advanced would be the full-dub. But that is it, re-painting the graphial part is possible but… no one would do it, it just makes no sense, has no value for such a purpose.

        If the video would had been filmed for Ukrainians – the last scene would have UkrArmy logo with the motto in Ukrainian. If then someone would translate it to feed westerner’s curiosity, to inform them – the last scene would not be translated in-graphic. Not because it is technically impossible, but because no one would need it. There could had been CC or dub voice translating it, if needed. But not more.

        The last scene makes me 99% sure, the video was NOT filmed for Ukrainians, never.

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  3. > To be clear, I do not think the Russian MoD was playing 12-dimensional chess by withdrawing from Kiev. The goal in the first phase of the war was to force the Ukrainian government to quickly capitulate, and this failed

    Kinda puzzling. Like you imply those are mutually exclusive. Are they?
    You know, there is a sttereotypical thing about US talking heads: Plan A, plan B, plan C, etc.
    While the wording itself is a bit obsessive, but the idea is correct. You don’t hold all the eggs in one bucket.
    If you make a move that serves one and the only purpose, for one and the only plan – and that plans does not start, then you just lost time and resources. But if your move could – to different degrees – facilitate different plans, then it is much more safer an investment. Your enemy would have to choose how to twart this plan, or that plan, but would probably not be able to twart all of them. So at least for some still in action plans that move would still be valueable.
    A move ideally should be an enabler to as many plans as possible.

    Did Kremlin hope Ze might crumble and sue for peace as long as he won’t be able to escapy in Kolomoisky’s private jet (artistic license here) from Hostomel? Probably. Hoped. But hardly expected it, and definitely should not had rely upon it.

    But pushing Zelensky to capitulation it also made nazi and West to invest into countering it, to apply counter-pressure upon Zelensky, and to create more tensions between themselves.
    It also made sure NATO would not be able to airlift equipment and personnel to Kiev in the very first days.
    It also demonstrated UkrArmy defences were rather penetrable, making UkrArmy HQ fearful of forward defense and forcing them to ball up in cities.
    It also demonstrated Kremlin is willing to double up if necessarily and won’t be shy to commit to a big war.
    It also indeed made UkrArmy HQ keep significant forces for Kiev defense.

    Every of those points, one by one, could be countered by Kiev and NATO, but at a cost.
    All of them? Hardly so.

    It is not 12D chess, it is just plain boring positional chess. A principle of two threats if you will. Increase your options list, reduce enemies list, and eventually you can pursue more threats than your enemy could counter, and then the nemy would choose which point to give up upon, once and again.

    Coming to your background, it would be the opening chapters of Gone With The Wind, retreat to Atlanta. North had two armies, South had one. North just tossed hot potato to the South – where would you put your army for defense? Put it against one army – and we move another. Choose which our army you enable to push forward. Slowly and boringly they came to the city walls.

    None of those armies had one single purpose, they created situations, where they had few purposes and all were beneficiary to the North. South was left to just choose least of evils, again and again.

    Similarly, Russian blitzkrieg to Kiev gave Kiev a bunch of options, but one worse than another.
    Kiev was left to decide upon Russian army purpose there.

    > Russia can keep this up indefinitely,

    Since West threw the masks off i now think it would be in Russia’s interest to keep slowboiling the EU frog on Ukraine fire until next spring. Let them enjoy new, global-untrade mode of passing through winters. Then ask again.

    Putin’s strategy: offer a bargain, turn pain dial, offer a worse bargain, rinse and repeat.

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  4. Great post as always. Been following Moon of Alabama and Saker too. I see you commenting on MoB sometimes.

    Russia is inside US/UK/WEF/IMF/NATO/EU OODA Loop.

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    • Exactly. Most of the people I know who are emotionally invested in this have consistently refused to update their worldview. Despite overwhelming evidence. I am not sure what to do anymore.

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    • Hmm, this seems like a wordpress problem…I have disabled requiring emails, and also disabled cookies. That should definitively solve the problem, making it not possible to save your info at all.

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  5. I entered my previous comment and didn’t save my name and email which cleared the fields. I’ll do another and save to see if it will still clear.

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  6. Another good piece.
    One observation with the potential to strengthen your overall argument.

    The Kiev move wouldn’t be 12-dimensional chess, but rather pretty typical of Soviet / Russian strategic deception. A Kiev surrender would have been a bonus, and with those numbers there could never have been an intent to take Kiev.

    But it does seem to have been an effective feint, and fixing operation.

    Martyanov makes the useful point that there is not “one plan”–there are layers and layers and branching paths for plans. The Ukraine of 2014 might well have folded, but ‘contingencies upon contingencies’ would have been involved, making the surrender of Kiev a discussion of whether the actual outcome was Plan A or Plan C, so to speak.

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